Zakharia 4:4-5

4:4 Then I asked the messenger who spoke with me, “What are these, ¹  sir?” 4:5 He replied, “Don’t you know what these are?” So I responded, “No, sir.”

Zakharia 4:13

4:13 He replied, “Don’t you know what these are?” And I said, “No, sir.”

[4:4]  ¹ sn Here these must refer to the lamps, since the identification of the olive trees is left to vv. 11-14.